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	<title>Comments on: Dual Relationships</title>
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		<title>By: Michael_Reeder</title>
		<link>http://www.pagantherapy.com/2008/06/05/dual-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael_Reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moriah -- Yup, one can certainly be misunderstood in one&#039;s own community.  I do think one is more likely to be understood in one&#039;s own community however than outside of it.  -- Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moriah &#8212; Yup, one can certainly be misunderstood in one&#8217;s own community.  I do think one is more likely to be understood in one&#8217;s own community however than outside of it.  &#8212; Michael</p>
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		<title>By: moriah conquering wind</title>
		<link>http://www.pagantherapy.com/2008/06/05/dual-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>moriah conquering wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Never seeking counseling at all for fear counselors will misunderstand them...&quot;

oh hell Michael that bes not requiring any dual relationship restrictions to manifest.  you have studied some Christian thought so it poses this question, have you never heard the phrase &quot;He came unto His own, but His own received Him not&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Never seeking counseling at all for fear counselors will misunderstand them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>oh hell Michael that bes not requiring any dual relationship restrictions to manifest.  you have studied some Christian thought so it poses this question, have you never heard the phrase &#8220;He came unto His own, but His own received Him not&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael_Reeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael_Reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dawn -- Your observations are right on the money -- that &quot;therapist[s] should always work from their own strong ethical base and boundaries should be discussed at the on-set of therapy.&quot;  Thank you.

The correlation between this dual relationships debate and abortion is perhaps weak and more a correlation between the emotions aroused and the behavior I&#039;m observing than a logical correlation.  It also may be hard to know what the heck I&#039;m talking about given that I pulled that out of context from an ongoing therapist debate on another listserv.  The correlation I see is that about half the therapists in the debate believe in a rigid, absolute right and wrong approach to dual relationships in which there are rules that apply 100% of the time no matter the circumstances.  The other half believe in strong personal ethics and that some allowance for circumstances and the needs of the client play a role.  The result is a war in which the rigid crowd try to codify professional ethics codes in ways that straightjacket therapists into having no room for professional judgement.  Then everyone gets mad, stops listening to each other, and the battle lines are drawn (sort of like the abortion debate).

Thanks,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dawn &#8212; Your observations are right on the money &#8212; that &#8220;therapist[s] should always work from their own strong ethical base and boundaries should be discussed at the on-set of therapy.&#8221;  Thank you.</p>
<p>The correlation between this dual relationships debate and abortion is perhaps weak and more a correlation between the emotions aroused and the behavior I&#8217;m observing than a logical correlation.  It also may be hard to know what the heck I&#8217;m talking about given that I pulled that out of context from an ongoing therapist debate on another listserv.  The correlation I see is that about half the therapists in the debate believe in a rigid, absolute right and wrong approach to dual relationships in which there are rules that apply 100% of the time no matter the circumstances.  The other half believe in strong personal ethics and that some allowance for circumstances and the needs of the client play a role.  The result is a war in which the rigid crowd try to codify professional ethics codes in ways that straightjacket therapists into having no room for professional judgement.  Then everyone gets mad, stops listening to each other, and the battle lines are drawn (sort of like the abortion debate).</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Pugh</title>
		<link>http://www.pagantherapy.com/2008/06/05/dual-relationships/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Pugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael, 
I am a psychotherapist operating within the United Kingdom. I came across your debate on &#039;dual relationships&#039; and would like to offer my opinion; 
Good therapist should always work from  their own  strong ethical base and boundaries should be discussed at the on-set of therapy. 
I really cannot see the correlation between this subject and the subject of abortion. May-be I am missing something.
Regards 
Dawn Pugh
http://www.dawnpugh.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,<br />
I am a psychotherapist operating within the United Kingdom. I came across your debate on &#8216;dual relationships&#8217; and would like to offer my opinion;<br />
Good therapist should always work from  their own  strong ethical base and boundaries should be discussed at the on-set of therapy.<br />
I really cannot see the correlation between this subject and the subject of abortion. May-be I am missing something.<br />
Regards<br />
Dawn Pugh<br />
<a href="http://www.dawnpugh.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dawnpugh.com</a></p>
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